His late wife Mare collected pre-Ascension memorabilia, and he keeps one piece, a drawing of a flower,[7] to inspire his crew. Those who had been close to Kelsier, particularly his thieving crew, are notably discomforted by his religious image. If you dont like or understand it, again, move along. Marasi Colms: An Allomantic Pulser (able to slow down time in a bubble around herself) and a constable in the Elendel constabulary. [54] Secretly, however, he knew that Ruin would send Marsh to intercept the message, and was hoping that reading the message would give Marsh the information he needed to remove Vin's earring, which was also a Hemalurgic spike that was keeping her from taking up Preservation's power. Does anybody find it odd how specific Kelsier's death is? He/she/it has kandra under their control, is either controlling or working with the Set, and is apparently planning on annihilating life on Scadrial as a whole. He connects us to his characters. , He and Hoid have a very antagonistic relationship one with one another, stretching back to when they first met and got into a violent fight. . After Kelsier died, when Vin fought the Lord Ruler, Marsh killed the other Steel Inquisitors in Luthadel and saved Vin's life. Kelsier's suspicions that Vin was a Mistborn were confirmed when he saw that she was able to burn zinc. [33] As a result, he has both regular vision and the steelsight that Inquisitors used, allowing him to see via both normal light and trace metals. He helped the people there survive using his knowledge of the Metallic Arts, showing them how to make metalminds to store attributes like heat in a way that could be shared with anyone. Will Wax and Wayne wield weapons with wild wantonness? When he reaches their base, he moved past their guards and passed the wall into their chambers. We dont haveto do this. [53][54] He used this opportunity to tell Spook to send a message to Vin, warning her that any spiked person could potentially be under Ruin's control. He then "Snapped", becoming a Mistborn. He was killed by the Lord Ruler in The Final Empire, but has resurrected. He introduced them and Vin to Yeden and explained his plan to destroy the Final Empire and kill the Lord Ruler. That would have advanced his plans quite nicely. After Sazeds Ascension and Spooks rise to political power, Kelsier began to speak with Spook about finding a way to bring himself back to the Physical Realm. He didnt say anything rude. Kelsier dies. To view an earlier version of the wiki without spoilers for a book, go to the Time Machine! So, Im kind of with Ishar a little bit. ifKelsier was spiked? His near invincibility as a Mistborn warrior fuels his reckless nature. Cause I see what could be considered3 different theories in this one post. They go on several outings together, including fighting Inquisitors this leads to Vin almost dying however and changes how Kelsier runs the crew. Please help The Coppermind by, Kelsier really wasn't kidding when he said that. It's the same power, after all. [citation needed], To put the plan in motion, Kelsier first targeted Keep Venture, as House Venture was the currently most powerful house in Luthadel and an attack on it would have the greatest impact. This one will be important. I am not trying to shut this theory down as you would say, I am trying to understand the theory, because as you said, I want to discuss it,and your post telling people who dont understand what you are saying because you are so unclear are even more uneccesary, aggressive, and frankly very rude. After Elendel was saved, Kelsier talked with Harmony, asking him to lead Scadrial into a new technological and Metalborn age so they may be better prepared for future threats and Autonomy's return.[22]. Kelsier is seen to be not fond of the decision, but doesn't let any of his agents to assassinate her. I dunno what the point of spiking him would be. He lacks finesse in the external mental abilities of zinc and brass as he tends to create large changes in emotional states as opposed to the more subtle Soothing abilities of Breeze, although he can affect a relatively large mass of people. The Lord Ruler is pierced through the chest with a spear, basically a long spike, then uses that spear to stab Kelsier. See below for the whole section on Kelsier and what hes been up to behind the scenes. At the end of the book, Kelsier invites Marasi to join the Ghostbloods after her success in stopping Autonomy's army to which she rejects after much thought. So, Im kind of with Ishar a little bit. When Marasi Colms discovers an agent of the Ghostbloods, Moonlight, she manages to convince her to take Marasi to a warehouse in Bilming to aid in the fight against the Set. Shes also written one novel and is working on several more. Wax, Wayne, and Marasi work together to take down Miles Hundredlives, a compound bloodmaker who has been kidnapping women and stealing aluminum for a shadowy organization called The Set. At the end of the book, the kidnapped women are still missing, Miles is executed, and Wax discovers that his uncle Edwarn, whod been presumed dead, is actually alive and a member of the Set. [8] He also hates how much Kelsier goes against his Intent, bringing about massive societal change in how he brought about the death of the Lord Ruler, and played into Ruin's plans. born of the mist dagger kelsier fornite books bookmarks Creator Janseloth Designs 2 Downloads 3 Sales US$5.40 Followers 0 Follow Contact Page translated by automatic translation. I represent that one thing you've never been able to kill, no matter how hard you try. He died at the end of the first book in the original trilogy but theres always another secret. [43], Hoid greatly disapproves of Kelsier's interference with Roshar through the Ghostbloods. Be. The first glimpse we had of Trells influence was at the end of Alloy of Law in the form ofMiles Hundredlives dying proclamation: You are fools! From what I do understand, I don't see why it is relevant, and generally, when something is irrelevant it is wrong simply because it is simply adding more complexity to the books (I think we all know the Cosmere has plenty), and is pointless. And he didnt have metals as a cognitive shadow, so we have no way of knowing. [32], Born to a noble father and skaa mother,[35] his mother kept both Kelsier and Marsh alive by pretending that she was noble to their father so that their children would be considered merely illegitimate noblemen instead of half-breeds; however, their father eventually found out. [6] He is stern and intense, but always smiling; another act of rebellion against the Lord Ruler's oppression. And if we ignore that as well, Kelsier's cognitive shadow doesn't seem to have any of his mistborn powers so an extra hemalurgic power would likely mean nothing at that point. Immediately after his death, Kelsier arrived in the Cognitive Realm. But spiking modifies the spirit web, which is the same whether your a cognitive shadow or not,and so it could have provided him benefits. He also knew at that point he'd been too much of a problem for the Lord Ruler. He also ran into Vin and was shocked to see how far she had come in the time he was away. Solid in the metal you fed to Elend. Mistborn (Series) Personality Type: ENTP - 8w7 - so/sx - 873 - EIE - SCOEI - Sanguine-Choleric - EF (N) One of the most legendary men known to the Skaa. I have to explain myself like, seventeen times. A bit obsessive, a bit anxious, and a whole lot amazing, Steris uses her neurodivergencies to her (and Waxs) advantage by plotting out every eventuality and creating detailed plans to deal with any situation. VenDell: A kandra who often delivers messages on behalf of Harmony. Why would it have to be relevant to the current or future cosmere? And for all of you who feel the theory doesnt have a point, you can just stop posting. He forced the rest of the crew to leave, only leaving Vin. It is assumed that, based on his experience as a Misting crew leader that staged increasingly daring heists, he had broken into the Ministry building of Urteau and discovered the secret in the storage cache). [8] Despite Preservation not usually being able to speak into the minds of other, due to some combination of Spook being near death, having a broken soul, and believing Kelsier was a god, he was able to talk to Spook. Kelsier had lots of plans and backup plans. But you can't kill me, Lord Tyrant. Kelsier would beat Kaladin in a straight fight as he is prone to using dirty tactics. As of the end of The Bands of Mourning, he has a very obvious crush on Marasi. Later on, a group of Southern Scadrians traveled north in search of the Sovereign's Bands of Mourning, but were captured by the Set, who decided to seek the Bands as well. Kelsier had traveled there several years after the Catacendre, inhabiting a physical body that was spiked in the right eye, and found the Southern Scadrians slowly dying of an unexplained coldness. Kelsier considers guns to be inelegant weapons. The roast is strong with this post. If he were a Returned, his name would likely be Lifeseeker, or something along those lines. Kelsier is a former thief from the capital city of Luthadel. Sazed, after becoming God, grants Spook the power of a Mistborn and heals him of his ultra-enhanced sense (an effect of continuously flaring tin for extended periods of time). For one of them, Kelsier's crew planned to steal the Lord Ruler's atium cache, which they believed lay hidden in Kredik Shaw. As of Mistborn Era 2, he may be a feruchemist and he has not gained access to allomancy since his death. Kelsier often kills nobility and the skaa who serve them with absolutely no qualms. Does that make any sense? He was the one who organized, the one who took all of the wild brainstorming and turned it into a viable operation. Kelsier later said that "he had more Money than he could Spend" however, after a failed attempt at stealing from the Lord Ruler in his secret room inside Kredik Shaw, he was sent to the atium mines in the Pits of Hathsin. Before the trilogy began, Kelsier was the greatest Crewleader any Skaa had known. He is a twinborn, utilizing the Allomantic/Feruchemical skills of Coinshot (pushing metal) and Skimmer (storing his own weight to make himself heavier/lighter). All Im saying is that whether or not TLR could have been hemalurgically spiked depends entirely upon whether or not the rebels stabbing him with spears only stabbed hard enough to just barely get the metal heads in, which would technically allow for hemalurgical side effects, or if the rebels stabbed him with enough force that the spear head went ALL THE WAY THROUGH HIM and stuck out the other side of his body, leaving him with only the wooden haft still inside of him and the metal heads not touching his insides. When Bleeder killed Father Bin by nailing him to a wall, it is described as a parody of the Survivor's Statemark,[60] implying that the Statemark depicts the way Kelsier died, impaled by a spear. The spirit of Kelsier often appears in Spook's hallucinations, granting him the power to burn pewter and guiding him through difficult situations. Kelsier would understand, but still disapprove of. As long as it provides something to think about and consider, it is worth posting. MeLaan: A kandra who has been around from about the time of the Catacendre. Lyndsey is a renaissance faire performer and magic wand-maker. OreSeur incites the skaa to rebel, beginning the revolution and the overthrow of the Final Empire. His best friend, Dockson, helps him follow up on Marsh's reports of a skaa with known Allomantic powers. Kelsier is a Mistborn, so he can burn every Allomantic metal, although he is particularly proficient with the external physical metals iron and steel. He has an imposing presence and is a natural leader, easily taking charge and swaying even the downtrodden skaa of Luthadel into joining the rebellion with his charming personality. Now with over 10 million copies sold, The Mistborn Series has the thrills of a heist story, the twistiness of political intrigue, and the epic scale of a landmark fantasy saga. Once their army was trained and the houses grew unstable enough, they would send a part of their army to attack the Pits of Hathsin, forcing the garrison of Luthadel to go and defend the Pits. Kelsier then made his living as a thief, becoming famous throughout Luthadel. [21] There is a darkness to him that other heroes, such as Kaladin, would fight but that Kelsier instead embraces and is so ruthless that, in a fight with other notable people from the cosmere, he would be the most likely to win;[27][28] even Hoid considers him incredibly dangerous. Or does Sanderson have yet more secrets to reveal? They called you their god, and you were casual with their faith! [24] This results in the skaa considering him a god, leading to the founding of the Church of the Survivor, which refers to Kelsier as "Lord of the Mists". [15] He shows little empathy or fear, as well as a high ego,[14] and is frequently quick to resort to using violenceoften lethal violenceto solve problems,[16][17][18][19] even when doing so clearly won't actually help the people he is supposedly trying to help. Kelsier draws up a master plan for the job, in which he designates each member of his crew to a role. The new skin is based on Kelsier, a central character of the series. Vin didn't trust him but agreed in order to learn how to use Allomancy. [3] He appears to be using the Ghostbloods to find a way for him to leave Scadrial and is very interested in learning from the Heralds, particularly Kalak, as they are subject to a similar restriction. lets delve into that a little more deeply, shall we? Mistborn Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. The Misborn series comes recommended by Eurogamer friend Johnny Chiodini, who describes Fortnite's latest addition thus: "Kelsier is a thief, but he's also a mistborn - a person who can consume. If Kelsier orders a person around, it is a sign of affection. Then Yeden would gain control of the city and the crew would receive the Lord Ruler's atium stash as payment. Allegedly dead as of the end of TheBands of Mourning, but heyits a Cosmere novel, who knows? Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the Well allowed him to become a Cognitive Shadow and resist the pull of the Beyond. Kelsier went on a pewter flare run to save the army, but was too late to stop the battle. If it did, the Koloss who died wouldn't have reverted to Humans when Kelsier saw them die. As a Cognitive Shadow tied to Scadrial, it is difficult for him to travel to other planets via Shadesmar. It's not a sad death. Then he found the power at the Well of Ascension and became trapped there with Ruin, though merging with the power of the. Which is kind of how Id always imagined it. That said though, Im also kind of confused at what Ruin would be trying to accomplish even if TLR HAD been spiked. [24][25][3][26] He is a great agent of chaos and is very good at tearing things down and messing with what other people want. We want to discuss this theory. Dockson once again became Kelsier's organizer and right hand man. [29] Hoid has also taken direct action against him, giving Wax an unsealed coppermind containing knowledge that he would rather keep hidden. He finds Vin and Ham near the steps of Keep Venture and also learned that Dockson had died in the Battle of Luthadel. Though Vin initially is wary and suspicious of him, she eventually learns to trust him, and he becomes somewhat of a father figure to her. [24] After his death, OreSeur takes his bones and appears before several groups of skaa, making them believe that Kelsier survived somehow. After Vin had recovered from her extensive injuries, Ham took her with him to allow her to watch him burn pewter effectively, but they quickly returned to Kelsier with news that Yeden had had his troops attack a garrison outpost against their main objective. Vin decided to stay in order to see if he told the truth about trusting others.[35]. Don't make me come over there and slap you around again. The Coppermind has spoilers for all of Brandon's published works, now including The Lost Metal and Tress of the Emerald Sea (Secret Project 1). But was that truly the end of his tale? [46], During his journey to find the Ire, he runs into Ruin and has a discussion about Ruin's intent. Gemmel frequently put Kelsier into life and death situations in order to push him to learn how to use his powers. [69] Wax then used the artifact to defeat the Set and save the Southern Scadrian prisoners, using up a lot of the Investiture stored in the Bands. [78][34] At the time of meeting, he saw Kelsier as a wild card that he didn't want to deal with. Will it be revealed to be the Big Bad of the series after all? [22], Kelsier has an unknown Seon which he uses to commmunicate with his Ghostbloods on Scadrial. Clearly I am not the only one questioning the relevancy, (Thanks for the support btw @KalaDANG) and it is not to point out that I don't "like" the theory, I find it unlikely, and there are 2 main reasons: A. I don't understand what the theory is trying to say (Which might make my thoughts on the theory irrelevant). Despite what he has told the Ghostbloods, Kelsier does not have a real avatar. Kelsier later gave this drawing to Vin. What are you saying? Kelsier's own role takes advantage of his Mistborn training, allowing him to assassinate nobles, cause disruptions in the Great Houses and eventually ignite a house war that would tear Luthadel apart from within. Kelsier at first hated Leras for claiming to be God, enough to instantly punch him. Is Trell the true Big Bad of Era 2? Kelsier was the primary mentor of Vin and crewleader to the gang who was credited for overthrowing the Final Empire. The liquid in the pool you burned. He teamed up with the escaped Plantation skaa Dockson and the Tineye Mare, whom he married. Despite his disapproval of Kelsiers actions, Marsh is still willing to infiltrate the Steel Ministry as part of Kelsiers plan. Although Vin assumes him to have only trained partially using each metal, Kelsier is extremely skilled at Steelpushing and Ironpulling, a skill he demonstrates when he defeats and kills the Steel Inquisitor Bendal. As you can see, Kelsiers been a busy, busy boy. One day, the men of gold and red, bearers of the final metal, will come to you. After removing her second spike and adding one of Trellium, she went mad and began working with the Set, and was defeated. What about this mysterious Trell? You seem to want to shut down theories that are too complex for you to understand. In Bands of Mourning, we were introduced to the Malwish, a culture from Southern Scadrial. The Lord Ruler served as the target of Kel's final escapade, a superb thief and natural leader. [76], I don't want to be responsible for something happening to you, Vin. 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