Ian, can you explain the background about how this document came to be? She doesnt have reason to trust a lot of people right now. Lori would say, Were doing everything we can to protect the kids from Kay. Aren't there some legal shelters in place that grant an individual immunity from testifying against your spouse? I think getting married to a believer is part of the doomsday cult. The detective said, Do you know who lives next door? And I said, Yes, I think Alexs name was on the lease, so sometimes my uncles over there, sometimes my aunt goes over there, and I didnt know what that was about. We had them almost entirely through the month of January didnt have any problems with Melani or me being around the kids at that point, but now thats a problem. She married Ian Pawlowski last November and lived next door to Daybell in Rexburg during the time her children were missing. View the profiles of people named Melanie Pawlowski. Its sad to see that. As soon as she just started asking questions, he just flipped. Remember, just 3 days before these weddings took place, Chad, Lori & Alex fled Idaho. A group thats not mainstream? Here is the Proof. Ian Pawlowski made. His manner of death was deemed natural and his cause of death was"arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease," the office said. The court systems havent protected her, and Tylee and Colby were abused by their dad, Joe. And I went to Tylee and was like, How are you? She was so brave speaking about it and was very collected and very mature. Brandon filed for and was granted temporary custody of the children, and there has been a very heated custody dispute going on ever since. Does anyone out there know much about these two? Melani & Brandon's divorce was finalized in November right after Melani was arrested TWICE for trespassing on Brandon's parents property. Melani: Im foggy on this date but (Rexburg Police) Detective Hermosillo and another gentleman had come to my door while I was moving my stuff in so it had to have been early in November Id guess the second week in November. Coxclaimed self-defensein the July shooting. Court and police reports show Boudreaux, Melani Pawlowski's former husband, were in a contentious divorce at the time of the shooting. The major players and timeline in the disappearance of JJ Vallow and Tylee Ryan. We want everything to be heard, and I think everything will eventually unravel as we see it continuing to move forward. If I had put you in charge, you would be wearing one of these orange jumpsuits too. Here is the Proof. Ian: I just basically echo what Melani said. Chad has said that they are safe. Theyre scared. I have no idea what Ians doing behind the scenes, and Im in a scared time in my life where Im trying to figure out the pieces. Ian's personal network of family, friends, associates & neighbors . What's in store for spring? He just thought the world of her and worshipped her. Thats all we can do right now. I could maybe understand a day or two but if youre going on weeks, and you havent seen them, did you say, Wheres JJ been? especially because he has special needs? Initially, when Charles filed for divorce with Lori, he brought a document over to my home with me and Brandon. Its sad for our children, and we pray for them every day. And I kind of regret the way I presented it to them because I feel like its kind of blown this thing up a lot more than it should have. "That statement was not recorded.". Both JJ and his sister, 17-year-old Tylee Ryan, were found dead in Daybells backyard last week, leading to Daybells arrest on charges of obstruction and concealing evidence. Brandon was shot at in October and believes Alex Cox, his ex-wifes uncle, was the shooter. Eaton: Do you believe that Brandon has turned dark? It wasnt last minute because they had talked about moving to Hawaii at some point. Chad wouldn't be financing a new mobile home and shopping his book if hebelived he and his loved ones would be leaving in 93 days. She. Everything thats being thrown around all these ideas that people are bouncing off each other theyre missing the truth. Ian: Anybody who doesnt know whats going on, theyre going to look at this and go, Yeah, this is insane.. In an upcoming interview on Dateline, Gibb will again discuss Lori and Chads relationship. Ian, along . Doesnt marriage exempt you from having to testify against a spouse? CLICK HERE FOR COMPLETE COVERAGE AND THE LATEST STORIES ON THE CASE. 2. More communications took place between Chad Daybell and Cox's burner phones around this time, according to police. Find Melanie Pawlowski's phone number, address, and email on Spokeo, the leading online directory for contact information. In court papers filed in a child custody case, Brandon claimed Melani Pawlowski allegedly told her current husband, Ian Pawlowski, that she "had been told by Chad and Lori that her children had . Charles sold life insurance and had his own company, and the texts between people it almost looked like a setup. Later on in December, Alex passes away, and then on Christmas, I get a phone call from Brandon, and I had to listen to him bullying me for an hour and threatening me and saying I had to go to the FBI and say that Alex shot at him. Lori Vallow Daybell's attorney is asking authorities to release records relating to her niece, Melani Pawlowski, Pawlowski's ex-husband, Brandon Boudreaux, and her current husband, Ian Pawlowski . Vallow and Daybell reportedly married there in early November, but there is no indication that Daybell was in Hawaii at the time Vallow's niece was reportedly there. She then got married to Ian Pawlowski in the same year after dating for just two weeks. In the document, Melani's attorney argued that Brandon is upset about her remarriage and retaliating against her by making unfounded claims about her mental health and parenting ability. We talk about in our religion the gift of spiritual discernment, and I think you look at the fruits of people to know for yourself, Is this a good person I want to have in life? On November 30 in Las Vegas, Melani Boudreaux married Ian Pawlowski, a . Cox was convicted the following yearof aggravated assault with a deadly weapon and sentenced to three months in jail, according to court records. She was a loving mother, and for some reason, all of a sudden, now Brandon is trying to take them away. Because Ive had every fear of where they could be, but the last time I saw them was the end of August as they were moving because I think they moved up that first week in September. I kind of felt bothered about the text I got but I understand theyre just doing investigation. Those kids love their mom, and they dont want to be with Kay. Boudreaux told investigators he left the house around 7:25 a.m. with his four children, and when he returned around 9:14 a.m., he saw the back window of the Jeep open up. They know it was this Jeep registered to Tylee. Ive been trying to put the pieces together of whats going on because I dont have the facts, but the knowledge that I do have it doesnt add up to all the speculation and rumors that are flying around. I appreciate you being willing to clarify anything that has been reported wrong because we see it reported wrong every day in all these different news sources. MELANI REMARRIED: Fox 10 obtained marriage cert for Melani Boudreaux (Lori Vallow's niece) & Ian Pawlowski (11/30). So I told Melani on Dec. 19 that I had been talking with the police and a little later, I told her Id been recording her. As Cox drove away, he called Chad Daybell twice through the burner phones, police said. As soon as I returned after Thanksgiving, I went right into Detective Hermosillo and was like, Whats going on? Makes me sick. Almost three weeksbefore the couple's divorce was finalized, Brandon was shot at on Oct. 2 in Gilbert while driving home from the gym. You see a shadow of a claw on the wall, and then the light comes, and its just a branch scratching on the window. Eaton: Do you think theyre safe? Below is a transcript of the second part of their interview. Melani holds close to her belief in a loving God. I remember you saying how Brandon Boudreaux has claimed that I have a million dollars of reasons to shoot at him or kill him or get money for a cult. Melani lived next door to Daybell in Rexburg during the time her . He is the ex-husband of Vallow's niece, Melani Pawlowski. Eaton: Then you moved up in November. Documents filed in Maricopa County Superior Court last week allege Lori Vallow's niece knows the location ofher children who have been missingfor more than five months. When you dont have knowledge about something and youre in a scary situation like this, you think the worst. Ian was from Rexburg; did he know Chad in the past? I know everythings going to come forward eventually. The couple marriedmore than two weeks after his wife, Tammy Daybell, died inFremont County. Rexburg police did not immediately respond to The Republic's inquiry about the matter. We drove up that first week in November with a moving truck. "Doomsday mom" Lori Vallow's niece, Melani Boudreaux Pawlowski, has denied in a custody hearing that she was ever involved in a cult with her aunt and Vallow's fifth husband, "cult dad" Chad Daybell, 12 News NBC reports. Alex dies at Zulema's house and her son calls 911. Where were my kids during then and why is he leaving them? Shes been what seems proven guilty before even given the chance to speak for herself. I have no clue whats going on, but I know that Melani is a good person. Thats just from asking, Whats this video I found? Melani: Shes in jail, and everythings been recorded. I admire Tylee so much for how brave she was. Also, Brandon says law enforcement not only confirmed that Melani got married to Ian Pawlowski weeks after leaving AZ, but that she is pregnant with his child. In late November, when police came to Vallows home in Rexburg, Idaho, to perform a requested wellness check, they discovered the children were missing. Were allowed to do that. Investigators released details of the investigation Wednesday in a 304-page police report and a handful of body-worn camera videos. In the 48 hours leading up to the shooting, on Sept. 20, 2019, Lori Daybell made a search tied to her Gmail account. JJs never wanted to be with Kay, and I wish we could see the times Kays actually come to try to be in JJs life. Based on evidence obtained during the investigation, police believe Alex Cox, Lori Daybell's brother and Pawlowski's uncle, drove a green Jeep Wrangler from Rexburg, Idaho, fired a single shot at Boudreaux and missed. And later on, seeing him on TV a few days later in the front row at Loris hearing, waiting to see if they can keep her in jail longer and not reduce her bail, thats upsetting. And these are things that are interesting, and you want to learn more about the mysteries of God that no one really has the real answers on. Reading or replaying the story in its She felt that she had good reason to believe and take whatever steps she took in order to fulfill that goal. ", A Jan. 27 petition filed on Melani's behalf said she "had no reason to instigate an incident of this nature" against Brandon. In recent court documents, a Gilbert man claims his ex-wife could play a role in finding the children. Depending on how you shine the light, there are facts, but depending on how you shine the flashlight, the facts look different. She always talked about her children, but during that time from November to I guess the 20th is about when Ian and I started dating I didnt see them, but I didnt see a lot of Lori. Melani Right. Those days were hard and teary missing my kids, and he would come over and lift me up. Eaton: When you got married at the end of November, did you move into Ians place? Melanie married Ian Pawlowski thereafter, according to the Idaho Statesman. Thats when everything started to be strange. Tylee was missing and likely dead by that time, but Gibb told East Idaho News in an interview that Vallow had told her the 16-year-old . In a document his attorney filed in court on Feb. 19, heclaimedMelani was"being investigated for numerous felonious acts across numerous jurisdictions," including the disappearance of her aunt Lori Vallow's children. only for your personal, non-commercial use. Melani is currently. Theyre missing to the rest of us. Authorities havesaid Lori Vallow and her new husband, Chad Daybell, have not cooperatedintheir investigation into the children's disappearance and that Lori Vallowdid not comply with a court orderto "produce" her children in Idaho. I was in Arizona most of the time Lori and JJ were there after adopting him. Lori and Chad had left probably right around when I was going down to Arizona. Soon after she got there, she married Ian Pawlowski. I want to thank you for being open-minded, for wanting to share both sides and not being afraid to share truth. Pawlowski moved to the same apartment complex in Rexburg and married a man named Ian Pawlowski. And until we know that question, she probably will not tell any of us that, and shes willing to sit in jail over keeping quiet and not sharing that information. Melani: Absolutely. From what? Be Safe, Be Well! I feel like thats a huge concern. "Our investigators are continuing to follow up on all leads related to this case. Where Is Lori Vallow's Niece Now in 2021? I havent heard anything from them since then. Thats just the terminology I see that as. Twice that morning, Cox and Chad Daybell made calls between their burner phones, according to police reports. Ian is now married. I still see her as the wonderful mom she is. Eaton: So you do believe that Charles was shot in self-defense, and Alex was defending himself? The whole idea is to protect her. Considering chad and lori were dealing with a fair few insurance claims it might explain her role in all of this?? She told me, Lori and Alex did something to Tylee and JJ, and we dont know where theyre at, and Lori has lied to you, and all these things that didnt feel right. Joshua was last seen Sept. 23 at Kennedy Elementary School in Rexburg, where he had been enrolled for three weeks, the records stated. And we patiently await every day until we are reunited with them. Get informative articles and interesting stories delivered to your inbox weekly. Eaton: When did you guys find out there was an investigation and JJ and Tylee were missing? I recently commented on someones posted and asked these same things! As a family, wed get together and talk about the mysteries of God and the deep doctrine conversations. Following the shooting, investigators in both Arizona and Idaho learned that Pawlowski, Cox, and Chad and Lori Daybell were close. There are topics where we dont have full understanding, like you see in this document things like translation, we dont have information on. I remember how emotional it was just to be there. No. I know they dont have anything to do with it. I was an open book and said, Heres what I know. We had a preliminary hearing scheduled for the 7th and 8th, and now its been pushed out to July, and until things get resolved, its going to continue to affect us. She explained everything, and so did Lori and so did Alex, and it made sense with how Charles has been acting. All rights reserved, If you choose local pickup, please get your gift certificate at our office at 400 W. Sunnyside in Idaho Falls Dismiss, UPDATE: Roads closed after building collapse in Lava Hot Springs, School closures and delays for Wednesday, March 1, After his death was ruled a suicide, a Blackfoot mans family is left with more questions than answers, Push to require clergy to report abuse stalls in Latter-day Saint-dominated Utah, Locals worried Roberts boil order came too late. [winks at Michael]. "So, she got pregnant with Tylee right away, and she was really excited about having Tylee." They told Ian when they met, Youll have to come visit us in Hawaii sometime.'. The documents show that Melanie Gibb will testify that Melani Pawlowski (listed as Melani Boudreaux and Mother in the documents) visited her aunt in Hawaii in October. Either you sent mean and nasty communications that caused Lori to be threatened, or you didnt, and it sounds like she did, and Lori says she did. Melani testified she moved to Rexburg, Idaho, in November 2019. Wow Shyannedawn! "Eyewitness accounts confirmed a dark-colored Jeep Wrangler with a Texas license plate, dark tinted windows and no wheel affixed to the back was parked idling on the wrong side of the street immediately west of Brandon's address," the police report reads. Or were you telling Ian just to get it off your chest with the assumption you didnt know what to think? 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